Campfire Vision

On October 15th, 2001 Campfire Spaders

Team Ladder was created

The vision of the creators and those that followed was: the existence of a friendly team ladder where sportsmanship was a top priority; a ladder where obnoxious, hurtful or dirty comments in the lobby would be dealt with instead of ignored; and a ladder where proven cheaters could be permanently banned.

We wanted a family atmosphere where a parent could allow a child to read the lobby without fear, where unfounded accusations were a thing of the past, and where everyone could be considered a friend.

We wanted it to be easy to get a game. We wanted no bidding and no challenging...just sit and play the game we love without regard to rank. Rank mongering would be frowned upon. Repeated troublemakers would be removed. Any actions not conducive to our intended atmosphere would be penalized.

I referred to it earlier as a "vision". It really wasn't as grand as that word infers. It was and is simply a desire for common sense morality exhibited in a team ladder environment.

By joining us around the Campfire, you have chosen FREELY to uphold the ideals that make this Ladder unique: Keep it clean, keep it fun, keep it fair and keep it friendly.

That's what the Campfire Team Ladder is all about.

CAMPFIRE LEAGUE RULES

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These are the minimum standards set for the ladder. Team Captains may, at their option, require more stringent rules for their teams. This is a Team Ladder based at Gaming Peak. Games are to be played in league room named "Campfire Spaders".

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SPORTSMANSHIP

Definition of Sportsmanship: Respect for Opponents and Gracious Behavior in Winning and Losing.

Definition of Insinuation: To introduce in a clever way. Too imply. An insinuation "IS A CLEVER WAY" to accuse someone of cheating without actually saying the word "cheat"

Winning and losing GRACIOUSLY is what this ladder is all about. Bad Attitudes have no place here. If you can't say something nice - don't say anything.

If  UNsportsmanlike conduct (the reverse of the above definition) is displayed with proof at a table, in a game comment, in the lobby, in the forum or via any messaging system penalties may be imposed. This is subject to and may include insinuations of cheating and its definition as set forth.

(See the Penalty Guidelines for how these penalties will be imposed)

FORUM POLICY

Posting in the Message Forum is a privilege reserved for members of a team on Campfire Spaders. It is intended as a place for announcements, congratulatory statements, questions and constructive criticism.

Posts by individuals not on a team, with the exception of those new members LOOKING for a team in the post, will be pulled.

Posts by individuals not on our Ladder will also be pulled.

Posts that bash individuals or teams by name will be pulled including those that do not specifically name names but do offer so much information that the individual or team in question is readily identifiable. If this happens, it is possible to lose your privilege of posting in the forum.

NO FIGHTING

If you are publicly fighting in this ladder, you may be permanently banned.

Remember, it takes two (or more) to fight. A fight is considered public if it is held in the Lobby or the Message Forum. Unacceptable Lobby and Forum conduct includes cussing and sexual innuendoes. Complaints on questionable lobby chat may be filed by any member of the ladder and should be copied and mailed to Campfirespaders@comcast.net

TEAM CAPTAINS

I am a Captain.

I am responsible for the actions of those placed on my roster.

It is my duty to assure that no team is intentionally avoided. It is my duty to assure that my team does not manipulate the ladder. It is my duty to assure that my team does not break the rules as currently posted. It is my duty to be civil and mature in the handling of all disputes involving my team.

It is NOT my duty to search out loopholes in the rules that can give my team an unfair advantage. It is NOT my duty to cause as much conflict with as many teams as I possibly can. It is NOT my duty to circumvent the items that this ladder is based on...

Fun, Friendliness, and Fairness.

Only a Team Captain may add or delete players from their roster. Players cannot be added to a roster without their permission. It is a Captain's OBLIGATION to be certain every player has read AND understands the rules of this ladder. The actions of ONE player can affect an entire team. A one-word accusation in table, is enough to get that team a warning by the Administration. Repeated violations can result in a team or individual being rung (dropping a team a number of rungs in rank), boxed (an individual or team being unable to play or report losses or wins for several days), or banned from this ladder.

Team Captains are encouraged to hold regular team meetings to discuss strategy or just to get together. They should also direct their players to the Main Page and point out the information that is available there. Also, direct them to the Message Forum to catch them up on everything that is going on ladder-wide. Encourage their participation in helping us keep this a fun and friendly ladder.

Teams may have up to forty members (40) and 1 Camper Player or forty one (41) without the Camper Player. You have to start a team with 2 members, you can't start a team with one person and a camper.

A rotating roster (continuously substituting the same players) is not allowed

A team is purged after 21 days of zero games played. As long as one game is played within that time period, the counter is reset to zero. No team members of a team may be purged unless their entire team goes 21 days without playing.

HOW TO GET A GAME

We now have four (4) different games that can be advertised at the same time:

1. Reg NDN – Would be advertised as - CF @ 4 NDN

2. Reg with DN – Would be advertised as - CF @ 4 DN

3.  Reg opp’s choice – Would be advertised as - CF @ 4 DN/NDN opps choice

4.  ALT game (whatever game is) CF @ 4 ALT – CF @ 4 Crawl

The default for ALT games is 8 hands. 

If you don’t want an ALT game but don’t care if it’s NDN or DN, make sure you advertise as stated in number 3, so players will not think opp’s choice also means ALT game.

 Do NOT sit at another table while someone is advertising for a game, and say Table A then Z, when the same type of game is being advertised. BE COURTEOUS and wait for that game to fill before sitting.

Do not sit or advertise for game unless your partner is in the room and ready to play.

2.) Join someone already advertising.

ALTERNATE GAMES RULES

Default is 8 hands

Click here for Game List

HOW TO GET A GAME

Only one (1) alternate game can be advertised at a time.  Please wait for one alternate game to be filled before advertising for another one.  Note:  "Opps Choice" in both Alternate and Regular Games gets first game.  See Rules on "How to Get a Game" for further details.

MIS-BID POLICY

If there is a misbid/misplay game is to be reported.  It is the responsibility of ALL players to understand the format before the start of play.

You may not:

1. Request a team by name or rank in any manner.

2. Include your rank in your advertisement.

3. Bid, challenge or blind challenge in any manner.

4. Request a game as a kibber at a table.

5. Start a game with a sub.

6. Request a game through whispers.

The mention of rank in the lobby is restricted to congratulations for a new #1 team.

Back-to-back games are allowed with the same or different players.

There is no limit on how many times a day you may play a particular team.

Second games are always optional and should be stated, politely, in the lobby as the reason for refusing a game. (Note: Refusing a second game should be a rare occurrence.)

We have three (3) types of games that can be advertised, Reg with DN, Reg NDN and ALT variations.  Only one (1) game format can advertise at one time.  Please restate type of game at beginning of game so everybody understands the format.

When two (2) partners sit across from each other they are ready to play even if no advertisement has been done in lobby. If team mates are just sitting to chat , they should sit next to each other instead of across, and use tables 100 - 150.

REPORTING A LOSS

When the game is over, BOTH losing partners involved in the game, are to communicate who is reporting the match.

At least one member of the losing team must stay at the table until the report is finished and it has been typed in game chat that game is posted/reported.   This allows the reporting person to know through the table chat who ALL the players were and there should be no misreports made. Mis- reports and double reports can be corrected by sending the game chat to campfirespaders@comcast.net.   If you get the one-minute wait message, the easiest thing to do is keep an eye on your computer clock and click submit on each new minute.

If any person playing in the game is not found on the team roster, it is a no game. You cannot at the end of the game ask for it to be posted to the Camper nick.

Unless the site is down you MUST report before you start your next game.

If the reporting page is out of service, all games will continue to be played on an open table, as usual. Please keep a written list of games played, so later on, when the reporting page resumes working properly, you may report losses in the order of play.

After Cases comes back up, please give opponents 24 hours to get the game posted. If not posted in 24 hours, send game chat to your Captain to handle.

NICK NAMES/TEAM NAME

Your Ladder name must match your Gaming Peak name, this includes spaces, underscores and other keyboard characters. If it doesn't, the match is invalid "NO GAME".

The ONLY exception is CAPS or non- caps. You should email the Admins to have CAPS and non-caps adjusted to your ladder name.

The nickname you choose cannot be objectionable to the Administration. Names similar to those already existing on the Campfire Spader’s Ladder are not allowed and you WILL be asked to change it. Several teams have identifiers that they require within the nickname. Please check with your captain.

KIBITZING

Kibitzing is permitted but not to ask for a game. Kibitzers, please remember that you are the guest at the table. Please keep the chatter to a minimum so as to not aggravate the two teams playing. If all of the team members are chatting, and do not mind, then join in. But please remember, the game belongs to the four sitting and playing. If requested, please refrain from chatting. If the person you are kibitzing does not want you to kibitz them, you must honor their request and stand. All four players must agree in order for a kibitzer to be silenced or kicked from the table. If the kibber is being rude, obnoxious, lewd, vulgar, offensive or unsportsmanlike in any manner, one person can request that said kibber stand, and that request should be honored immediately.

BE RIGHT BACKS

Try to time your BRB before the end of a hand and request the last card be held (HLC). Then you can go change a diaper, go to the bathroom, get a sandwich, or get a drink. Understandably, that is NOT always possible, but if it is - please be considerate of others.

BOOTS & MASS BOOTS

When a player is booted from the table, those players left, must wait a minimum of 5 minutes. If the booted player has NOT returned, the partner (of the booted player) may choose a sub or continue with a bot. If a sub from their team is not available, anyone registered and on a team in Campfire Spaders may be called upon.

Gaming Peak may sometimes work in mysterious ways. If your partner or opponent is lagging, we ask that you type the word "test" to determine if you are the one causing the lag.

No game may be started with a substitute. When a boot occurs and a substitute is used, the original 4 players are always credited with the win or loss.

When a game is started with a Camper, and the Camper's partner boots, and does not return within the 5-minute boot time, the Camper should continue the game with a bot or a sub until a winner is determined. If the losing team is the team with the Camper (and since campers cannot report a loss,) the opponents MUST copy ALL game chat (from beginning of game until end,) and submit it to the booted player's captain for reporting. The loss goes to the original player who booted, and the camper (make sure camper’s name is notated in game comment section).

Note: The "Unreported Match Rule" applies in this case. See the "Unreported Match Rule" for further details

MASS BOOTS

When a mass boot or a room crash occurs (all players booted from room) the game is ruled a No Game (No Team is obligated to report a loss).

TABLE TALK

Table talk about the cards in the current hand, whether or not it affects the outcome of the hand, is not permitted. Discussing the cards after the last card of a hand is fine, but NEVER during the play of the current hand.

Example: You cannot tell your partner to bag the other team, set them, give them one more, double nil, or nil. Cover me partner (cmp), TRAM and "I am nil" are also table talk.

All of those examples and more are considered table talk. NONE is acceptable.

PROPER PROCEDURE FOR CALLING TABLE TALK:

1. All instances of perceived table talk MUST be mentioned and a forfeit requested in the table chat at the time of occurrence.

2. The accused team may forfeit at that time with no further penalty.

3. If the accused team refuses to forfeit, the incident may be filed through your Team Captain to the Admin along with a copy of the completed game's table chat as proof. 4. If the accusing team refuses to accept a forfeit the incident may not be filed. If filed correctly and the Admin determine that table talk took place, a forfeit will be awarded (if necessary) as well as a team and possible individual penalty.

MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS

We only allow a set number of accounts from one location. If this number is exceeded, your accounts will be investigated and possibly removed. We have an automated security system to keep track of this information, and all new account info is logged. It is illegal for one person to have multiple accounts or be on multiple teams. Only one nick name allowed per account. (Only you are allowed to play under your ladder nick name, not anyone else)

SAME HOUSEHOLD

Members of the same household are not allowed to play with OR against each other.   The exception is once a month when we hold the BOS tourney all day, same household is allowed to play against each other only at this time.

If you are a member of a same household (same workplace) situation, you MUST notify us before playing at Campfirespaders@comcast.net. This also includes if spouse is at work, out of town, etc. You must submit ladder nick names and team names of all involved.

Failure to do so will result in penalties being issued. The program does not allow reports to or from people in the same household.

RANK HOUNDING

Every #1 team will be rung to the bottom of the ladder once they have held the position for 24 consecutive hours.

Let's keep the top ranks active and fair. If you are a top ranked team, give all teams a shot, not only those ranked immediately below or above you.

CHEATING

PROVEN CHEATERS WILL BE PERMANENTLY BANNED from the ladder. There will be NO second chances. An accusation without proof is NOT acceptable. "Proof" means: a cheating Private Message that has been captured in a screen shot; cards or instructions typed into the table chat or elsewhere; or similar proof.

If you have proof someone is cheating, do NOT leave the table. Stop the game in progress and request an administrator to come to the table. Whether one is available or not, take a screen shot of the table, of any private message and of the entire table chat and immediately (as in right away) send to Campfirespaders@comcast.net  in the subject line put "cheating".

If an Administrator tells you to continue a game, you must continue the game or report it as a loss. The only time you are not required to finish a game, is if an Administrator cancels the game, or, if an Administrator is not available AND it is PROVEN cheating. The rule of thumb is to get an Administrator and let us make that decision.

Automated card-counting programs are also illegal in the Campfire Spaders Ladder.

If a card counter is captured in a screen shot as open, it will result in a permanent ban.

Players who are PROVEN CHEATERS from other leagues will not be allowed to join Campfire. Current Campfire members who are caught cheating in another league, and subsequently banned from that league as a PROVEN CHEATER may also be banned from Campfire for cheating provided that other leagues provide complete documentation of the proof used to prove the cheating, and that Campfire Administration finds that the proof meets our standards of proof.

Campfire will also provide other leagues with the proof we used to ban a member for cheating. Other leagues will act on our proof as they see fit, which may or may not include banning that player from their league.

UNREPORTED MATCH

If the winning team notices the match does not show, write down the names of the team and players. Continue with your games. If said game is still not posted when you are done playing for the day, send an e-mail with ALL information to your captain. Your captain can then contact the other team's captain and they can work it out from there.

If the team captain has tried to settle an unreported match complaint, and the match is still not reported after 24 hours, an unreported match complaint should be sent to Campfirespaders@comcast.net with "unreported match" as the subject.

Upon receipt of an unreported match complaint, Administration will ask for action from the reporting team's captain. Said captain has 24 hours from date and time of Administration's notice to verify and post the match. If the match is still unreported after the allotted time, Administration will post the match and a TEAM WARNING will be issued. (See Penalty Guidelines for imposed penalties on unreported matches)

GAME SETTINGS

The default setting is Regular with DN. If you request a NDN in lobby, you MUST again state NDN at the table before game begins. Otherwise, if your opps DN, the game will revert back to Regular with DN . Any ALT game advertised should be restated at table before games begins.  Tables are never allowed to be locked.

FILING A COMPLAINT

Aside from proven instances of cheating, questionable lobby chats, and mis-reported matches, all official complaints must be submitted by your Team Captain.

All evidence  should be sent to your Team Captain to resolve the matter. Team Captains are encouraged to resolve the situation between themselves BEFORE an official complaint is filed. A complaint only becomes official once it is mailed by a Team Captain to this address:

Campfirespaders@comcast.net 

Procedure for filing a complaint can be found in Captain Guidelines on the main page at www.Campfirespaders.com 

You have two weeks (14 days) from when the game or incident occurred to file a complaint. See Procedure for filing a complaint.

If the Team Captain is unavailable, and your problem needs immediate attention, you may seek out an Administrator for guidance.

CAMPERS

Teams wishing to use a Camper may increase their roster size to 41 to accommodate that camper player. A Camper does not have to be on a Campfire Team, but must be a registered member of Campfire. You can register at www.Campfirespaders.com  and click on free sign up.

If playing with a camper, please say so in game chat, when you state your team name.

MIS REPORTS

Misreports should be filed IMMEDIATELY, but no later than 24 hours from the time the misreport was made.

All misreport claims must be done via e-mail and sent to:

Campfirespaders@comcast.net 

Misreports will be fixed, ONLY if the below requirements are met.

Requirements:

1. Screen Capture of the final score (if available)

2. COMPLETE game chat (from beginning of game to END showing who was to report (example: pitchedtent……iwrp)

3. Date & Time game ended (as shown on cases)

4. Filed immediately, but no later than 24 hours from time of misreport.

Important! Adm. will not email you back asking for any required missing information. If a misreport is received without all the required information, or within the required 24 hour time period, the claim of a misreport will be considered invalid and the misreport will not be fixed.

Please follow the following format when filing your misreport claim:

1. By e-mail ONLY (within 24 hours of misreport):

Send e-mail to: Campfirespaders@comcast.net 

Subject line: Mis-report

2. Team Name Filing

3. Team Name who mis-reported

4. All four players involved in the game

a. Player 1 nick

b. Player 2 nick

c. Player 3 nick

d. Player 4 nick

5. Player who received the win in error

6. Player who should have got the win

7. Player who stated they would report the match

Note: ANY player involved in the game may file a misreport. Penalties will be imposed on repeated offenders. (The type of penalty has not yet been determined by Adm., but will be at a later date.)

Note: Administrators will NOT fix misreports if called to a table, but will be glad to help if you are unsure of what you need to do to file a misreport.

Misreports will only be fixed via e-mail and only if the above requirements are met.

EXCEPTION Rule

There are exceptions to EVERY rule. Without exceptions there would be a need for MORE rules. In other words, if it is not written here or in the penalty guidelines, it does NOT mean it is allowed. It does NOT mean you won't be penalized/boxed/rung/banned just because it isn't written.